Ranking Revolution

Welcome to the ranking revolution podcast.

Your go-to source for strategies,
ideas for SEO, organic growth,

content creation and business.

I'm your host, Doug Cuttington.

This is part two of the
interview with Tim Schmidt.

And this is one of the many to partners.

When I have a sort of a longer interview
in the first part, we talk about getting

started in SEO, getting started with
niche sites and running an agency.

And then we start getting into the
challenges of running a community.

The fun part is when we left in the
last episode, we were talking about.

Adult SEO and maybe some
of the racier areas of the

internet that you can get into.

So we go a little bit more into that,
and then we talk about his community

and coaching program out there in really
the challenges, which I personally

know how challenging it is to run
either a course or a training program.

When you have a moving target and it was
moving so much that I thought, why don't

want to do a course anymore, because I
don't understand what Google really wants.

I don't know if Google understands what
they really want or what the users want.

But there are still a lot of my
friends and peers out there, like

Tim who are coaching and navigating
and figuring out what works.

So we get into all those details.

If you missed part one,
be sure to check it out.

And let's just get to the interview now.

Doug: Is the adult market
pretty saturated or crowded?

Are there a lot of SEOs working in that?

Just, you know, you don't hear
people talk about it too much.

So I'm just curious.

Is that like a good area
for folks to work in?

Tim: It's very hard.

It's one of the hardest markets to
penetrate, but I guess the thing is not

a lot of people are comfortable doing it.

You know, they don't want
to own adult themed PBNs.

I mean, I have a fiance and we first
started dating, she came into my office

and I was building links to a transgender
page and she was like, Whoa, I had to back

up and explain my business a little bit
that I was building links to this page

and wasn't looking at that content, you
know, so it's, it's a risque business.

And a lot of people just won't
touch it morally or whatever,

just for their own thoughts.

But, um, It's very hard.

Um, it's hard to get back
links for that niche.

You kinda have to be really creative.

A lot of PBNs come into effect.

Relationships are key in that industry.

It's definitely a good one if you can
get good clients, but a lot of these

guys have been doing it for so long and
these companies are very, very savvy.

So they, they're not
gonna work with a novice.

SEO.

Doug: Got it.

How, like, how much, I guess you would,
I'm thinking of someone like getting

started if they were like, Hey, it sounds
competitive, but maybe there's like less.

People working in that industry
and they don't have any moral

issue or any other issues with it.

Like how many years of experience,
or would you say like you probably

need to work at an agency or
under an SEO with someone that

could kind of show you the ropes?

Like what would you recommend for
someone getting started there?

If

Tim: you're getting started an
adult, I would definitely do a lot

of homework on the sites that are
already up there ranking, look at

their time online, all their backlinks.

I mean, some of the authority
scores you see on these sites

are absolutely incredible.

I would definitely get your feet
wet at an agency or make sure

you do a lot of coursework, take
people's courses go to the events.

I know there's plenty of SEO
events in this world and really

like master it before you try it.

Cause people get discouraged when they
do SEO, whether it's doing it for clients

or affiliate when they don't get results.

And I think a lot of the people
that do that, take one little

course or learn a little bit of
information and try to go with it.

When they don't see results, they quit.

You really need to immerse yourself
and try on something pretty

easy before the harder stuff
is going to be even attainable.

Doug: Okay.

Sounds like a slippery slope.

Someone can end up in a whole
different world if they're not careful.

But with that, let's switch over
to the affiliate marketing portion.

So let's talk about your portfolio.

It sounds like you've been
building sites for a long time.

How many sites do you have?

Can you just talk about which
we're working with here?

Sure.

Tim: So right now I have over 200
sites that are technically online.

Now I'll say 75 percent of those are
incubated with some content and ideas.

And.

Are kind of waiting for the right, I
guess the perfect storm of like that

market niche, you know There's some that
were in health niches where they just

There was a product like let's talk about
carcinia carcinia cambogia or raspberry

ketones two big very big diet pills
back in the late 2000s And that ship

sailed like the surge demand went down.

I'm sure there's people out
there making commissions on it.

But That was way before I
learned to build, scale, and

flip, which is what I do now.

You know, when something's hot, get
out, take your money, fast forward

your earnings three years, and move on.

So there's about 75 percent that
are there, and some are kind of,

you know, dormant or waiting for the
right, hey, like, I have time, I made

an exit, let's go to this one now.

I just, I'm a domain collector, and
I like, uh, really good domains,

and if they're there, I'm gonna
put them online, let them saturate,

and, you know, build some links to
them over time, and let them go.

But right now, I operate about
12 sites that are a focus.

That generate cash right now.

Okay.

They're in spaces you
would ask about spaces.

So, I mean, it's dating finance, cannabis.

Sports, uh, travel is a
huge one for me right now.

Lead generation, precious metals.

Doug: Okay.

That's awesome.

Thanks for sharing those.

I know sometimes people are like,
what, what are the sites in?

So very competitive.

Can you share any kind of scope of
the earnings or top line revenue

or whatever you wanna share?

You don't have to, Tim, but I, you
know, I should ask you, and if you

don't want to answer, that's okay.

Tim: No, sure.

Um, so right now those portfolios.

Turn out about high five figures a
month, sometimes over six, depending

because mostly because, uh, it's really
dependent on the precious metal space.

We do a lot of leads for that.

And then we get paid on the back end
when people do successfully move over

parts of their portfolio into, uh, you
know, uh, gold or silver backed IRA.

That's been a little slow right now
because for some reason the stock market's

raging, uh, even though metals prices
are very high right now, they typically

get into that space when banks collapse.

So for example, we had.

Three, four, six figure months last
year when those three banks collapsed.

I mean, the whole world's going,
Oh my God, banks are collapsing.

And we're sitting here like, yes, you
know, so it's, it's just a matter of

time before I feel I studied the economy.

Uh, I'm sure, you know, Greg Morrison,
we have a YouTube channel together.

We cover the economy, um, and
talk about what's going on in it.

But, and I see the writing on the wall.

I don't think we're in a
great place economically.

Um, I think the stock market highs
right now are kind of fool's gold.

But when that market rages,
the earnings go way up.

But the rest of the sites and, uh,
ventures I have in all cashflow

travels really picking up right now,
which is probably why consumer credit

card debts at an all time high, you
know, no one wants to stop traveling.

And if they've got room on their
credit card, they're going to go.

Uh, so that's a fun niche for me that I
really got into about four months ago.

I've had, I've had, I've been
in the niche forever, but

never really tried to monetize.

I kind of had a travel blog and I'm
like, okay, I actually took someone

else's course, which I rarely do
unless it's like a technical SEO

course or something I can learn.

I actually took a travel blog course
and was mesmerized at what's out there.

Um, there's a lot of people doing
really well in travel and they

niche down and they do very well.

And I, I didn't really.

Think about the various
ways they can earn money.

And all I was looking for was a couple
of different ways I can earn money.

And I learned like seven, just
watching this one little series.

Doug: Can you talk about one or two of
the ones that had the biggest impact?

Tim: Yeah.

The actual course names,

Doug: the affiliate monetization,
because that's what you're talking

Tim: about, right?

Yeah, sure.

So affiliate monetization traveling
travel, like you talk about going

places and things to do in places.

Just simply adding in so you're talking
about best places to eat brunch in

Fort Lauderdale Well people that are
looking for brunch in Fort Lauderdale

are probably either Living in the area
and just are new to the area or most

importantly like tourism is huge here.

They're visiting So supporting
that with content about where

to stay in Fort Lauderdale.

There's numerous affiliate
programs or stay 22.

There's booking Marriott has a great
affiliate program And not only that, but

renting a car, should you rent a car?

What is Uber like?

And then when you start telling them
all the math about, I mean, you, you can

convince anyone to rent a car anywhere
they go when you break down the fact that

I live right outside Lauderdale to get
to Miami, which is only 24 miles from my

house on the weekends with search, it's
going to be a hundred bucks to get a basic

Uber, like a, the low end when you get
a black one and it's gonna be over 200.

So round trip, you're
looking at 400 renting a car.

You can do that for a week on that price.

Car commissions are big.

So opening up your audience's eyes to
that and just instead of telling them

the best places to eat, like support
that with like, Hey, while you're in

Lauderdale, if you need a rental car,
like it's going to cost you this much

to get to Miami during the weekend.

And a lot of people do that trip.

So knowing those in and outs and how to
monetize that is very good, but probably

the biggest one outside of those, cause
those seem kind of obvious is tours.

Tours is huge.

You know, when you're in
Lauderdale, here's a good deep

sea fishing trip and there's so
many places you can monetize that.

So that's a been a
really eye opener for me.

And I never even thought of that.

Doug: Very cool.

Yeah.

I know when we travel, I love
taking like a walking food tour.

I love food.

And then you get to try, you know,
a little bite at each place instead

of having to order like a huge meal.

You usually get like a sampler
thing and it's a history lesson

because they walk you around town.

So I love those just personally.

So I would, I would love to take
those and do a review of them.

So do you do your own, uh,
like writing on that site?

Cause you like to travel and such.

Tim: I do write a decent amount,
but nothing like I used to.

And I'd like to give a big shout out
to surfer for helping me with the hat.

I'm a surfer addict.

So the way I've dialed in surfer,
the team does so well, they're

making really good AI content that
I, I spend a lot of time editing it.

Not half as much as I would putting
my own article, you know, pen to paper

and putting it online and WordPress.

It's.

I share my own takes.

I mean, it'll, it'll spit out things
and have the normal AI kind of words in

there, like let's embark on a journey
on where to eat in Fort Lauderdale,

you know, I would never talk like that.

I'd be like, Hey guys, I love food.

Probably as much as you do.

I've lived here 20 years.

Here's my favorite spots for brunch.

I'm going to list them in order.

Here's some key takeaways and I'm gonna
share with you my favorite dish at each.

So when I get that AI back,
I'll have my personal touch.

Like I love this place for
their bottomless mimosas.

I like this place for their Oreo
pancakes, you know, like whatever it is.

So I do tend to put my own spin
on everything and I enjoy it.

But more importantly to kind of beat
the eat and the helpful content update.

Like we do use this to our advantage
and go out and travel a lot.

So like the pictures are all.

They're real, you know, I don't have
to steal them from TripAdvisor or

Facebook or anything like I've got my
own pictures, like, Hey, here's, here's

the crab Benedict I had last weekend,
you know, and it's their geo tag with,

you know, so that works out really well.

Doug: If I'm ever in Fort
Lauderdale, I'm calling you and

we're, we're going out to eat.

I like all the stuff you're talking about.

Oh, are you

Tim: on pancakes?

It's one of my favorite spots.

I'm a foodie as well.

Doug: All right.

So you mentioned it earlier.

Is every year passes, it's a
little harder to rank and do SEO.

I think the last year, in my opinion of
my, you know, 10 years of SEO, AI really

changed things and then there's more
Google updates and maybe more impactful

Google updates, perhaps in reaction to AI.

What's your take, Tim, my off base on
that and just fill in the blanks a little.

Tim: No, you're not off base at all.

It's, I mean, the web is getting
littered with AI content.

And I think that.

It's a good thing because people are
more active with their blogs and their

websites about putting content out.

And when people get lazy
with it, things get stale.

To me, it's just not as intriguing,
but I think it's like, I just

explained, I think it's something
that you can use AI content, but you

need to really go in and look at it.

I mean, if you look at all your pieces
and they come from different platforms,

you're going to see the same kind of.

Speak coming in from, from
different things, different lingo.

You know, enjoy the succulent
wings at this place.

You know, it's just, these
words keep appearing.

So I think if you go in and you edit
your articles and you do it, it's a huge

time saver and people that do it the
right way are really going to thrive.

Doug: You gave us a little bit of a hint
where you go in and maybe you put things

in your own words and pull out some of
the language that, You know, you and I

maybe wouldn't use all the time when we're
just chatting with a friend or something.

What other tips do you have
about editing AI content so that

it is, you know, helpful for
the reader yet does well in the

Tim: search engines.

I think a big thing you need to do
is also look in the search engines

and see what already exists and
see what they're talking about and

make sure that this matches it.

And a lot of times you're going to
see that restaurants and and I'm just

sticking with travel here for continuity.

But restaurants and venues often
times are going to be thrown into AI

that just simply don't make sense.

So, for example, I did a roundup of
the best happy hours in Fort Lauderdale

and they did a really good job.

But they listed one that was an hour away
and no other article mentioned that one.

So, I simply went in and
I just knew this market.

So, I went in and just said, Hey, this
is a fantastic spot for a happy hour.

However, it is an hour away.

So, it's not technically in Lauderdale,
but if you're making the drive north,

this is a fantastic spot to go.

For and then going back into
the search engines and seeing

what every other person said.

Um, making sure that the stories
are kind of congruent yet

different with your own spin on it.

Um, to me it's just knowing who you're
up against is probably the best thing

you can do in AI because Again, if
you're using a tool like, for example,

Surfer, if you don't tell it, it's
going to pull from the top 10 results

and kind of use a hodgepodge of
what's out there to write the article.

So it's going to be an overlap and
no one's really going to stand out.

So you could say, write about the best
happy hours in Fort Lauderdale, but make

sure to talk about this one, number one.

It might be one that no one else
listed, which is a good thing.

You know, say this is my secret
hiding spot that I really like that

I don't tell people about often
because it's a different place to me.

And it's usually not as trafficked on
Tuesdays when I like to go, et cetera,

et cetera, but be a little bit different
because otherwise what's gonna happen

over time if people are hitting the
same topic and they're just using chat

GPT or another AI writer that correct
search engines, everything's gonna

be a blend of the same information.

So I think the people that
kind of differentiate a lot

are gonna succeed long term.

And again, that's just theory,
but that's where my mind's at.

Doug: I like that.

I think about that too because at some
point, if you're, if everyone's just

referencing each other's material, you
do end up with just like a recursive

sort of derivative, like, uh, uh, Set
of content for the specific keyword

and let's get some new ideas into it.

I know sometimes that's not always
possible, but I'm like, Come up with

your own ideas and you could still use an
AI tool to maybe like help you mold it.

I'm thinking of more like conceptual
things versus, um, but, but you gave

a perfect example, you know, pick
10, it's just all the same ones.

Tim: And that, and that's just it.

I mean, a lot of times you'll see.

a good way to handle this
actually is probably like I

like to provide a solution.

If you go to Google and this is, I'm
obviously speaking how I would SEO

this, like with keywords in there.

So when I'm saying this, just think of
when you're writing for keywords, like

if you're looking for the best happy
hours in Fort Lauderdale, you're probably

going to run into these five places.

They're going to be all over the first
page of Google, but I'm a local here and

I'm going to share with you a couple that
are also off the beaten path as well as

those five, cause there's no disagreeing.

Those five are amazing.

So here's my list of the best ones
I like outside of that list and

I'll go into those five as well.

It's a good way to differentiate yourself
and create something that's different

and of course, basically tell people
that you're real, which is a good thing.

Doug: And that's perfect because I
can see a headline or YouTube video or

whatever where it's like local favorites
like versus the, you know, the ones that

are on the food network or whatever.

Although I like Guy Fieri.

I mean, he's, he's fine.

I love his shows.

I can't watch enough of those.

All right.

So as we're, as we're wrapping
it up here, you also have.

Is it a mastermind?

It's sort of a course
community type thing.

Can you describe it?

And I want to dig into some of
the details on that, but what

do you have going on with that?

Tim: Sure.

So affiliate rescue is an affiliate
marketing training course.

It starts at zero and goes all the
way to the bonus section has, is

basically constantly updated with
hacks that happen every month that I

learn and keep uploading new content.

But it basically teaches all the
methods that I offer in affiliate

marketing, from starting a site to
theming your site, to how to Content

production, strategy, structure, back
linking, outreach, all that stuff.

And it teaches the whole model that I do
about building, scaling, and flipping.

And that, that's just what it is.

It's, it's 40, 50 hours of
video right now, all inside.

And then there's an option for
mentoring, and that's a private group.

Where there's a monthly fee with
that, people can apply to it and

be in it and that's on top of it.

When you, when you're a private
mentor, you get access to the

course for free that comes with it.

But that's kind of where a thing
where we get on the phone a couple

of times a month and I actually sit
down with you, say, where are you at?

We look at it.

I outline next steps in the form
of homework, basically like, okay,

before we meet again, you need to
do this, this and this, and then

we're going to go to the next step.

And it's basically like I'm advising their
business along the way to help it grow.

And people can do that for six
months or a year or even longer if

they want, as long as they need me.

Um, but basically I take
accountability in their business

and we look at successes, failures,
and I do treat it like it's mine.

So I don't say, do all this stuff.

And then two weeks later, if we didn't
do it, it's like, okay, well, you

know, we can't, we have nothing to
talk about today unless you have some

questions, but we need to go back and
do that because there's a process here.

So again, there's a price for the course
and then there's an additional for

mentoring and that's a private thing.

We are doing a private meetup
later this year at some point, so

people have access to that as well.

Yeah.

Cool.

Um, I'm involved in the forge community,
which is Greg Morrison's mastermind.

So I speak a lot there.

Um, that's just a totally different
thing I do, but that's how I kind of

stay in the game and speak with people.

And you know, I do get
students from there as well.

So yeah, it's a pretty cool community.

And again, we're just all people out
there building niche sites, trying to

help each other grow and get it going.

Doug: So with all the changes and more
frequent Google updates, at least it

feels that way, I haven't looked at the
list of all the updates, how were you.

Staying on top of everything.

I know you mentioned a couple of things,
but you're potentially creating a lesson

that could be out of date in a few months.

So how do you reconcile that?

Cause that's a really
difficult thing to do.

Not knowing how long
something will be successful.

Tim: Sure.

So a lot of the fundamentals last, you
know, when you're creating a topical

map and creating content that goes
around that, that's a fundamental

that I don't ever see going away.

And I know it's become a hot
topic in the last couple of years.

But the fundamentals of building a
good content structure, writing your

content to recommend, not necessarily
sell, but to recommend and talk like

an expert, that's not going to go away.

So I would say 70 percent of the
course is fundamentals that you'll

hear a lot of other affiliate
experts talk about it as well.

The other stuff is, is technically
like in a bonus section.

So it's like, Hey guys, like, I don't
know if you guys are SEO, um, this

little hack's working right now,
here's how I'm personally attacking it.

You know, in the minute it doesn't
there'll be an updated video being

like, Hey, that tactic is gone.

Or I might remove the video overall,
but, or put it in a, um, you know, a

historic archive of some sort, you know?

But yeah, you know, you're right.

Things do come and go.

There's a lot of different
strategies out there like right now.

And I haven't done it personally yet, but
I have friends that are really getting

involved in Reddit and ranking Reddit
subreddits and it's working very well.

I don't know how long that'll go on, but
it's a topic I'm diving into very soon.

So you're right.

There's a lot of things out there that
come and go, but once you have access,

it's a one time fee when there are new
things I update and I advise and say,

and we have probably the Facebook group
to any member gets access to that.

So there's always
chatter in there as well.

Doug: Cool.

And that makes total sense.

I mean, a lot of things probably haven't
changed dramatically in eight years or so.

I mean, there's some tweaks, but the main.

idea, the main concepts behind
it will hold true, or they're

just like good practices.

Even if some of the details switch,
if someone outside example, if someone

reads the four hour work week after
whatever, 16 years, since it's been

published, the tools are all different.

But you can still get a lot of value
from the strategies and ideas and think,

Oh, well, I don't need to use that tool.

It's now changed to this other platform
or now there's learning management

systems and you could like go over to
teachable or Kajabi or whatever and have.

Your whole course set up in like
15 minutes, which back in those

days, you probably had to like get
it coded custom and it costs like

18, 000 or something like that.

It takes six months.

So

Tim: vendors change over the years too.

I mean, I don't even use the same
link builder as I did two years ago.

I've met a whole different crew
of people that I work with and

have been introduced to people.

I went to a great Event put on by
Craig Campbell last summer in Vegas

and I met so many people and I've
been buying links from all different

sources I've been working really well.

So those vendors are all covered in
there The cool thing about the course

is I talk about where I buy all my
stuff I have all my resources when

you need this done you go to this guy.

This is where I go for
this Oh, I found this one.

This one's I'm testing it right now.

I'll let you know how it goes So I'm
very transparent with everything and

I do over the shoulder Reviews of
what I'm doing on my own sites You

How I'm doing with count account.

It's accountability for me, which is
why I like, you know, more than anything

It's it's not a huge moneymaker thing
where I just want to sell a course and

you know, I'm done I sold a course.

No, I'd like the accountability.

I like when students are like,
hey, what'd you do last month?

You know, how did your gold site do?

I like that.

That's

Doug: cool So, let's see
as we're wrapping up here.

Let me pause just for a second So
let's say someone enrolls in the course

and they get the mentoring as well.

How long should they expect to put
in say 10 to 20 hours a week before

they start seeing some results and
assume they don't have any knowledge.

They're just like, I want
to start a website and get

something going on the side.

Tim: I think if you're starting with
a brand new website, 10 to 20 hours

a week is pretty good, and I would
say by month three, you're going to

start seeing traction if you've done.

A to Z that I cover in the course, right?

And you've got a topical map and you're
executing it and you're interlinking

it and you're building links.

Within three months, you're going to start
seeing that, okay, I'm seeing traffic.

I can see where this is going, right?

And then by then you're going to hopefully
learn and be on a pace where you can

start generating, you know, positive
cashflow within six to nine months.

That's the goal.

Cause it's a lifetime of skills.

I mean, a lot of people will look
at it and say, yeah, I did this for

a year, but I didn't make money.

So I quit.

But it's like any trade.

If you go learn to be a carpenter and you
do it for a year after going to school

for it, you didn't make money because
your money was spent at the school, right?

You need to do it for a while.

So again, it's a life skill you
can learn forever and do and

hopefully churn out a living.

Whether you want to do something part time
to make an extra thousand dollars a month,

or you really want to be a super affiliate
and go for those high five figure six

figure months or more, it's out there.

It's a skill set, but a good three
months of work at 10 to 20 hours a week.

And again, Those things
are niche dependent.

If you're out there and you're
like, yeah, I'm going to go for

precious metals, which is one of the
hardest spaces out there right now.

You're going to have a
bigger ramp up period, right?

But if you pick a small niche that has
maybe, you know, 20 sellers on Amazon,

it's not a super high traffic thing.

Like, best, uh, best pre workout coffee.

That might be a hard one.

I don't know.

I'm just saying something that's smaller.

You're gonna have a way better time
doing that and figuring it out.

So there definitely is a ramp up here
and everyone thinks it's overnight, but

the biggest, the biggest takeaway I can
give, and this is inside the course as

well, but it's free info from anyone,
and I'm a mentor with them, so it's

kind of a self plug, but Otis Global
sells age domain names, which will

fast forward your efforts in growing
your site beyond any shadow of a doubt.

Getting a site that has
age and backlinks to it.

Is the best way to press fast forward.

I know this isn't Nintendo.

There's now a DVD player We're going from
chapter 2 to chapter 14 when you're buying

a site that has age and power behind it
And again, I work at otis as a mentor

there So I help people buy those kind of
domains and uh, i'm sure alex would love

that I mentioned that you can contact
me at otis as well if you'd like and i'm

happy to help you find a domain that fits
your interest your niche and everything

and More than anything it fast forwards
your digital marketing efforts quite a bit

Doug: For sure.

And I'll give a plug to, um, I'm a
mentor as well over at Otis and I'm

chatting with Alex, uh, pretty soon here.

So yeah, it is one of the little
hacks that you can do, but like

everything, it's a trade off.

There's a cost to get an age
domain, but it does, I mean,

it's like a little fast forward.

So very awesome.

Well, Tim, this has been amazing.

I.

I think we covered so much, but if
people want to find out more and connect

with you, where do you want them to go?

And we'll link up for all this so
people can check out the show notes,

but where do you want them to head to?

Tim: Sure.

Um, agency website is website rescue.

com from there.

You can go to the bottom.

If you want to learn about the
affiliate rescue course, just

click on learn affiliate marketing.

That's there.

We can put a link in that as well.

I'm on Twitter at tequila reviews.

That's a passion project I have.

I do a lot of YouTube, Twitter for that,
but at Twitter, I interact with, uh, Hold

Twitter verse and internet marketing.

A lot of guys on there at tequila reviews.

Um, that's me and, uh,
YouTube is ice cold marketing.

Very

Doug: good.

Well, thanks Tim.

Hopefully we'll catch up

Tim: soon.

Absolutely.

Doug.

Thanks for having me.

Thank you so much to Tim for
hanging out and chatting with me.

It's a small world out there.

It was interesting.

It's always interesting.

When I learned that someone else
worked, or like Tim almost worked

at the same company that I worked at
20 years ago or something like that.

And somehow we ended up working online
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